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Post by Papi El Sueno on May 13, 2012 14:16:07 GMT -5
Alright ladies and gentlemen. For those aware, we have had Disturbed (or whatever name you'd like to call him) come in the chatbox and state that he is done with all the drama we have had and wants to be a part of PCW again. I don't have an opinion on the matter (nor will I state one at this time), but I want to know everybody's opinion... should Disturbed be allowed in PCW, and if not, should things with him be on at least a civil level?
State so here, and Disturbed is allowed to state his points in this thread.
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Post by disturbed on May 13, 2012 14:20:11 GMT -5
Pretty much I strolled in here to see how everyone is doing and I found out PCW had returned. I have been interested in joining PCW because I have a new character, I am testing out. Everything that happened, went down months ago and I am willing to forget about it. Sure I did some dumb shit but I've grown up since then. I think the arguing and drama is pointless and I am willing to put the past behind us and enjoy rp'ing with you guys.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 14:20:53 GMT -5
Disturbed has alienated every person he worked with. He picked fights for no reason, and bashed Nathan (cyborg 878), and Ray (Draven), making fun of their personal lives and private situations. He's been given chance after chance, and every time he was, it only signified more trouble. Not to mention, since the time we were on MWF, he wanted to usurp our place, staging the controversy that got us kicked out of there in the first place.
As I've publicly and privately stated, he does NOT deserve another chance. We've been through long enough.
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Post by cyborg878 on May 13, 2012 15:06:55 GMT -5
I have to say no. I personally have put my neck out for you before and helped get you involved here again before and you spit in my face. You've caused way too many problems here to be given yet another chance.
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Post by Shot on May 13, 2012 16:44:22 GMT -5
Mark my words: You will NEVER step foot in this company. You shouldn't EVER even post again here, or even browse the forum for that matter. In all my years of life I have never been so disgusted/offended by a person. You're the epitome of everything I stand up against, you're an immature, intolerant, bigoted, hypocritical, aggressive little fuck, exactly the kind of person this world would be better without.
Don't get me wrong, people - I love giving out second chances (in fact, I think I might have given more of those than I should have). But over time Disturbed has proven to be an abusive, tethering, opportunist bully, and I don't want him in this forum, ever in my life. By the way, saying that you've grown up ever since sounds kind of offensive.
I feel tempted to ban you right now so you can simply fuck off but that'd be abusing power, and you might be familiar with that, but that doesn't mean I should do so. Fuck off of this community and go back to your life of bigotry and aggression.
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Post by disturbed on May 13, 2012 16:53:21 GMT -5
I'm really not here to fight, Shot. I mean come on man, just move the fuck on. It's okay. I mean if I were to cause anymore problems, all you have to do is click the ban button, right?
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Post by cyborg878 on May 13, 2012 16:56:06 GMT -5
No see the thing is Shot. He's already had a second..and third and possibly a fourth chance. No more chances.
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Post by morrison on May 13, 2012 17:25:22 GMT -5
I'd vote no. Although I've never really dealt with him personally, I've heard enough to know that he seems like a magnet for trouble. He seems confrontational and really, his talent level doesn't come anywhere close to the attitude that he has.
We seem to have a really good group of people who enjoy this and working with other people...in my opinion, we don't need the unnecessary baggage.
Jarrod
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Post by Papi El Sueno on May 13, 2012 17:38:49 GMT -5
Alright, I can see everybody's point of view on this. Again I have no actual opinion myself on the matter (that's why I left this to you guys), but I can respect everybody's views... and Mariano, Nathan, Leo and Jarrod do have valid points here.
As for the return to PCW in general. I'll be closing the poll and thread on Tuesday and the final verdict will be determined that day as well (judging by the replies and the poll itself, it's kind of spun that way but we'll give others a chance to state their views and replies from those that have already posted in this thread).
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2012 20:34:10 GMT -5
I'm really not here to fight, Shot. I mean come on man, just move the fuck on. It's okay. I mean if I were to cause anymore problems, all you have to do is click the ban button, right? I have still yet to see what explanations you have for doing everything you did. Unlike you and MWF with me, I'm a fair person and I give people the right to defend themselves. I suggest you use it.
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Post by lilacfray on May 13, 2012 20:53:26 GMT -5
I haven't worked with Taylor in the fed or anything but I guess I've seen enough to have quite a few good reasons to vote 'no.' But hey, I'm all for civility!
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Post by Adrien Cochrane on May 13, 2012 23:30:25 GMT -5
I'm one of the most forgiving people on the planet. One of those things that I kinda hate about myself. I wasn't around for whatever went on but I have talked to him on the chat. Thing of it is, if he acts up again, the higher ups could just kick him out again. I've dealt with plenty of cancers in the WfWA and when I was an administrator over at the EWZine. Some of them asked for another chance and became civilized people. Some did not. I went ahead and went with the only yes vote. I know I'm the minority so if no one else agrees, at least I'm only one vote. I stipulate that if he is given permission to return that he is on a tight leash. I'm talking two foot leash.
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Post by Shot on May 14, 2012 10:34:34 GMT -5
Exactly Nathan, which makes it even worse for his side. The titanic amount of chances you've been given and how you managed to let us down every-single-time are more than enough reasons to keep you out of these forums.
It's exactly why I've moved on that I don't want your ugly mug trolling around our boards. I am 140% sure that, if you were to be reinstated, you'd just find a way to screw us all over again thanks to your dictator complex. I feel tempted to purely ban you right now, but let's just listen as the rest of this community also votes "no".
It was awful to see you again. Now shoo.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2012 11:15:44 GMT -5
And, I'm still waiting for an explanation and/or (preferrably and) an apology for your previous actions.
If you can somehow convince me, I'll change my vote.
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Post by Shot on May 14, 2012 13:34:32 GMT -5
Just to let everyone know, this is the final day to vote on whether Disturbed is allowed back inside or not. By the end of the day, those results cannot be changed, and the decision is final.
Personally, I will maintain my "NO" vote. To all the new voters who don't know about Disturbed, you might be tempted to vote yes, and, believe me, if I didn't know Disturbed I would also believe he deserves another chance. However, after knowing him, and remembering everything he's done, like running a fed based on a dictatorship where he held half the belts (including the world), some seriously homophobic remarks, causing problems, and just generally proving to be the kind of guy you want to stay away from, anyone would vote "NO" on this one.
These boards have evolved from a small community that actually had the patience to handle this kind of bullshit to the amazing, proud and titanic group of friends we have today, putting out great roleplays every show, contributing to every discussion, and everything. Improvement is a part of evolution, and we've already made the mistake of trusting Disturbed several times, so why should we again?
Vote "NO"! We are better than this! ;D
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Post by Papi El Sueno on May 14, 2012 14:31:04 GMT -5
Approximately the thread and poll will be locked at 10:45 PM (in my time zone) because that's when I leave to go to work (I do the night shift ladies and gents). So from Central Time zone... that's about eight hours.
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Post by Adrien Cochrane on May 14, 2012 15:22:32 GMT -5
I consider that the overnight shift. The late shift is people who get off late (like me getting home at midnight).
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Post by Papi El Sueno on May 14, 2012 18:27:07 GMT -5
Good point. It's technically the overnight shift, but I call it the night shift because I go to work at night and it's a living hell for the most part.
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Post by Momo Uzuki on May 14, 2012 21:20:53 GMT -5
I don't know how to respond. But I wouldn't want to deal with him coming back. Because of all the bullshit we went through to go this far. I mean yes, we've been through it therefore it would be easier to get out of the second time around. But, if it can be avoided it would be nice to avoid it so it wont happen again. Even though I'm the type of person to give chances. Sometimes the situation causes to much problems. For how small the situation is in reality.
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Post by disturbed on May 14, 2012 22:25:17 GMT -5
Well I have to admit that I did mess up. It has been a long time since all that went down and what is the point of continuing the argument? Sure I made mistakes, but we all make mistakes. It's just part of growing up. I apologize for everything I did and to every person I offended in the process. Even if you guys don't want me rp'ing in PCW. Please find it in your hears to forgive me and make peace.
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Post by Papi El Sueno on May 14, 2012 22:47:45 GMT -5
This thread is locked and the polls are too. All voting and commenting on the thread is not allowed anymore. The polls are that the majority voted no, but all parties should be peaceful... which I agree with the peaceful part because I don't want anymore shit being started with Disturbed or anybody else for that matter (more so for PCW's sake than anything else).
So with that said. Everybody read the rules of the forum because they apply to this situation. No drama allowed on here. It's unwanted, unneccesary and just down right stupid.
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